THE "MYTH" OF UNPOPULAR HILLARY. PART 2. The first meeting of the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity.

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(The excerpt below was taken from an MSNBC NEWS REPORT.)

The co-chairman of President Donald Trump’s vote fraud commission on Wednesday cast doubt on the 2016 election results, saying he was unsure how many votes Hillary Clinton or Trump received due to the possibility of fraud.

“You know, we may never know the answer to that,” said Kris Kobach, the Kansas Secretary of State, who serves on Trump’s Presidential Commission on Voter Integrity, after he was asked by MSNBC’s Katy Tur whether he thought Clinton “won the popular vote by 3 to 5 million votes.”

“We will probably never know the answer to that question,” he added.

Clinton won the popular vote in the 2016 election by approximately 2.87 million votes. According to the certified Federal Election Commission records, Clinton received 65,853,516 votes and Trump got 62.984,825.

Kobach did not provide any evidence to support his statement. There have been no instances of widespread fraud reported in last year's election.

When Tur followed up with, “How do you say we may never know the answer to that question?” Kobach explained his rationale:

“What I'm saying is, let's suppose that the commission determined that there were a certain number of votes cast by ineligible voters. You still won’t know whether those people who were ineligible voted for Trump or for Clinton or for somebody else.

“And so, it's impossible to ever know exactly, if you took out all the ineligible votes, what the final tally would be in that election,” he added. “You can obviously, based on the data, you can make some very educated guesses.”

Kobach then admitted that some of the votes Trump received in November could be called into question, too.

“So are the votes for Donald Trump that led him to win the election in doubt as well?” Tur asked.

“Absolutely,” Kobach said.

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WHAT SHOULD WE TAKE FROM THIS?

#1-  Donald Trump first made the accusation BEFORE THE ELECTION, NOT AFTER IT. THEN, AS NOW, HE OFFERS NO EVIDENCE TO BACK UP THE ACCUSATION. An "ASSERTION OF FACT" IS MEANINGLESS WITHOUT PROPER FOUNDATION. OCCUPYING THE OVAL OFFICE DOES NOT EXEMPT YOU FROM THE RULES OF LOGIC.

#2-  Read carefully the Quote: “What I'm saying is, let's suppose that the commission determined that there were a certain number of votes cast by ineligible voters. You still won’t know whether those people who were ineligible voted for Trump or for Clinton or for somebody else."

In order for the Commission to determine that a specific number of votes was cast illegally,THEY MUST BACK UP THIS CONCLUSION WITH SUPPORTING EVIDENCE. THIS INCLUDES THE REASONING THAT LED THEM TO THAT NUMBER, SUCH AS WHICH CRITERIA WAS USED TO ESTABLISH THAT AN ILLEGAL VOTE HAD BEEN CAST. 

#3-  MOST IMPORTANTLY: Do not to allow Donald Trump to turn this "Investigation" into something it is not: AN EQUIVALENT ENDEAVOUR TO THE CHARGE OF MANIPULATING BALLOT/VOTER COUNTS TO CHANGE THE ELECTIONS OUTCOME. 

There is adequate evidence that the final vote totals in at least 6 States show signs of Tampering, changing the results to favor Donald Trump. (SEE MY ARTICLES ON THIS TOPIC IN OTHER POSTS ON THIS SITE.) You cannot allow Evidence, (OR LACK OF EVIDENCE), OF ONE TO SUPPORT A CONCLUSION ABOUT THE OTHER. THEY ARE TWO SEPERATE ISSUES.

TRUMP, O'REILLY AND THE "NEW" MONEY MAKING OPPORTUNITY.

FLASHBACK:  When I first started to look at DONALD TRUMP, as the potential REPUBLICAN PARTY CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT, I recalled e-mails that I had received regarding INTERNET WEALTH-BUILDING PROGRAMS that he promoted and endorsed. Ignoring them at first, I changed my mind when his Candidacy became legitimate. Well, it's more than a year later, and I still don't get it:  HOW THIS HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO GO ON UNCHALLENGED IS MYSTIFYING:

THE "LEADER" OF THE FREE WORLD SHILLING "GET RICH QUICK SCHEMES", WHICH SEEM TO CHANGE MONTHLY.  AT THE VERY LEAST, THIS DEMEANS THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT. EVEN WORSE, IT SEEMS TO BE A FLAGRANT CONFLICT OF INTEREST, SINCE THE TITLE OF "PRESIDENT" IS USED IN THE ADS. WHY IS THIS IGNORED?

I cannot make the point any clearer than contrasting the most recent ad, with one that was run on the internet less than two months earlier.  Both ads also feature "MEDIA" Celebrity BILL O'REILLY.

The comparison below is taken from two different ads. I have already Posted comments on the earlier version, it is used here to compare with the latest example.

I will not comment in this Post, leaving it to the reader to form their own opinions.





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HERE ARE 3 EXAMPLES.

COMPARISON # 1.

Bill O'Reilly drops a bombshell and explains the REAL reason he was fired.

By Michael Pearson, Faith Karimi and Joe Sutton, CNN

Updated 8:11 AM ET, Fri June 2, 2017

(CNN) -- Bill O'Reilly finally breaks his media silence to reveal the real reason he was asked to leave Fox News. - It's not what you've heard.

Bill O'Reilly says he was fired from Fox News because he knows the truth about something called the Complete Profit Code and not because of the alleged complaints against him.

"It's time people knew the truth -- not just about me, but about the entire operation. It's about the money. I thought they cared about me, and about the truth... they only care about one thing."

Bill O'Reilly drops a bombshell and explains the REAL reason he was fired.

By Michael Pearson, Faith Karimi and Joe Sutton, CNN

Updated 8:11 AM ET, Sun July 16, 2017

(CNN) -- Bill O'Reilly finally breaks his media silence to reveal the real reason he was asked to leave Fox News. - It's not what you've heard.

Bill O'Reilly says he was fired from Fox News because he knows the truth about something called the Instant Income System and not because of the alleged complaints against him.

"It's time people knew the truth -- not just about me, but about the entire operation. It's about the money. I thought they cared about me, and about the truth... they only care about one thing."         

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COMPARISON #2.

JUNE,2,2016.

Neither Ms. Greer or President Trump is attempting to distance themselves from O'Reilly as this very public scandal plays out in the media, even though neither stands to gain from a continued relationship with him.

"The truth is, my name is toxic right now. But they have continued to stand by me, because they know I've done nothing wrong. That's why I'm so dedicated to still spreading the word about The Complete Profit Code. If nothing else comes of this, at least we can help some people save themselves financially."

JULY,16,2016.

Neither Ms. Greer or President Trump is attempting to distance themselves from O'Reilly as this very public scandal plays out in the media, even though neither stands to gain from a continued relationship with him.

"The truth is, my name is toxic right now. But they have continued to stand by me, because they know I've done nothing wrong. That's why I'm so dedicated to still spreading the word about The Instant Income System.If nothing else comes of this, at least we can help some people save themselves financially."

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COMPARISON #3.

JUNE,2,2016.

"We were going to be telling people about The Complete Profit Code, so that we could help the American People create more income for themselves. We spent months researching and vetting this story, to make sure it was 100% legit, and now, no one will ever see it."

JULY,16,2016.
"We were going to be telling people about The Instant Income System, so that we could help the American People create more income for themselves. We spent months researching and vetting this story, to make sure it was 100% legit, and now, no one will ever see it."
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        WELL?

THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION- SOMETHING IS VERY WRONG. END GAME, PART 2.

So, what other evidence do we have that a DONALD TRUMP VICTORY WAS THE RESULT OF DUBIOUS AND UNRELIABLE ELECTION RETURNS THAT STRAIN CREDULITY?

LISTED BELOW ARE THE 6 STATES, CARRIED BY THE REPUBLICANS, WITH THE MOST
GOP VOTES IN 2012.  THE % OF THE TOTAL STATE VOTE IS ALSO INCLUDED. THIS IS FOLLOWED BY THE SAME RESULTS IN 2016

                                   2012                                                                                      2016


GEORGIA.   2,078,688/53.30%                                                                          2,089,104/50.77%

INCREASE/DECREASE-  2012-2016.
# OF VOTES:  +10,416.
% OF TOTAL:  -2.53%


INDIANA.   1,420,543/54.13%                                                                          1,557,286/56.82%      

INCREASE/DECREASE-  2012-2016.
# OF VOTES:  +136,743.
% OF TOTAL:  +2.69%.


MISSOURI.   1,482,440/53.76%                                                                        1,594,511/56.77%

INCREASE/DECREASE-  2012-2016.
# OF VOTES:  +112,071.
% OF TOTAL:  +3.01%


NORTH CAROLINA.   2,270,395/50.39%                                                       2,362,631/49.83%

INCREASE/DECREASE.  2012-2016.
# OF VOTES:  +92,236.
% OF TOTAL:  -0.56%


TENNESSEE.    1,462,330/59.48%                                                                   1,522,925/60.72%

INCREASE/DECREASE.  2012-2016.
# OF VOTES:  +60,595.
% OF TOTAL:  +1.24%    


TEXAS.    4,569,843/57.17%                                                                              4,685,047/52.23%

INCREASE/DECREASE.   2012-2016.
# OF VOTES:  +115,204.
% OF TOTAL: -4.94%


NOW, HERE ARE THE RESULTS OF THE 6 STATES THAT WENT DEMOCRAT IN 2012,
BUT REPUBLICAN IN 2016.

CHANGES IN REPUBLICAN SUPPORT:

                       2012 RESULTS.            2016 RESULTS.                    NUMBER/ %

FLORIDA.       4,163,447                       4,617,886                           +454,439/ +10.9%

IOWA.              730,617                          800,983                              +70,366/ +9.6%

MICHIGAN.    2,115,256                        2,279,543                           +164,287/ +7.8%

OHIO.             2,661,437                         2,841,005                           +179,568/ +6.7%

PENN.             2,680,434.                        2,970,733                          +290,299/+10.8%

WISCONSIN.  1,407,966                         1,405,284                          -2682/-.02%

KEEP IN MIND AS YOU LOOK AT BOTH CHARTS:

MICHIGAN, PENNSYLVANIA AND WISCONSIN HAVE VOTED
DEMOCRAT FOR DECADES.

BOTH INDIANA AND MISSOURI HAD A "NATIVE SON" INFLUENCE WITH
VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE MIKE SPENCE, AND SENATE MAJORITY
LEADER MITCH MCCONNELL.

So what does this comparison tell us?

stay tuned...

                                                                                                                           

BLASTS FROM THE PAST... FEATURE ARTICLES. MESSAGE TO ALL PROGRESSIVES: DON'T YOU SEE IT, EVEN NOW? PARTS 1-8, SELECTED PASSAGES.

Before the November, 2016 election, I PUBLISHED AN ARTICLE WITH THE TITLE:  
MESSAGE TO ALL PROGRESSIVES: DON'T YOU SEE IT, EVEN NOW? 
THIS ARTICLE HAD 8 PARTS, AND FOCUSED ON DONALD TRUMPS CANDIDACY, AND SPECULATED ABOUT THE TYPE OF PRESIDENT HE WOULD BE.

HERE ARE A FEW EXCERPTS TO COMPARE AND CONTRAST ABOUT WHAT WE KNEW THEN,
AND WHAT WE KNOW NOW.   


FROM PART 1.
With him, it has never been a matter of Intellect, Emotional Stability, or even a Coherent Political Platform.
The people who got Trump to where he is now, understand that getting him elected counts on the following...
...That Offensive Speech, along with a Lack of Knowledge, means very little if your Supporters
could care less, as long as it serves Their Political Agenda.

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FROM  PART 4.

The most amazing thing about Donald Trump claiming the Presidential Election is Rigged, is not that it is completely unexpected, but that anyone who really studies the problem couldn't see it coming.

It is a Strategy that fits in perfectly with those who already support him, for it requires none of the following:

-  An understanding of the Rules of Logic.

-  The Ability to separate Gossip, Rumor, and Innuendo
    from Factual Data.

-  The Understanding that you do not start any Investigation,
    be it Science, Law, Politics.,etc with a CONCLUSION, and
    then try to Shape the Evidence to Support it. BAD EVIDENCE
    DOES NOT CHANGE THE TRUTH, NO MATTER
    WHAT YOUR AGENDA IS.

  -  The REALIZATION THAT  BASELESS ASSERTIONS ARE
      MEANINGLESS, NO MATTER HOW OFTEN YOU REPEAT
      THEM.

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FROM PART 5.

So what Type of Voter would find someone like this appealing? Could it be the Type of Voter who sees the Writing on the Wall, with a set of beliefs and attitudes that no longer wields the Political Influence they once did?

Beliefs and Attitudes such as;

-  Religious Intolerance.

-  Patriarchal Rule.
-  Racial and Ethnic Divisions
   enforced by law.

Among others...

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FROM PART 6.

Let us make a short list that could explain the rise of Donald Trump.
#1- The Affordable Care Act has allowed Millions of Americans access to Health Care.     
       However, on a case by case basis, there may be those who have fallen through the
       cracks, and have suffered economic distress because of the Law.
       The President and Progressive Democrats suggest altering parts of the ACA to provide
       relief for such cases.
      
       The Republicans- Repeal the Law.

#2-  Immigration.
       The President and Progressive Democrats propose:
       To Provide Assistance, and an Opportunity, for Refugees and Immigrants to Live and
       Work in the U.S. This includes Extensive Background Checks, Waiting Period,
       Possible Sponsorship, and Obtaining Legal Employment for Tax Purposes.

       The Republicans- GET OUT, AND STAY OUT.
       ONLY CHRISTIANS FROM SPECIFIC COUNTRIES NEED APPLY.   

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FROM PART 7.
TAX BREAK INCENTIVES, WHICH ALLOWS THE RICHEST AMERICANS

TO RETAIN MORE OF THEIR WEALTH, WITH THE HOPE THAT THEY WILL

 PUMP THAT MONEY BACK INTO THE ECONOMY.

TO RECEIVE THIS INCENTIVE, ARE THEY

REQUIRED TO:

-  INVEST IN SPECIFIC INDUSTRIES THAT ARE STRUGGLING?- NO.

-  FINANCIALLY SUPPORT CORPORATIONS WHO PROVIDE A LIVING

   WAGE, OR A MEDICAL PLAN FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES?- NO.

-  ONLY SUPPORT AMERICAN BUSINESSES, INSTEAD OF TAKING THE

    FINANCIAL WINDFALL OVERSEAS?-  NO.

THESE TAX BREAKS ARE BASED ON THE "HOPE" THAT THEY WILL BE USED

TO BENEFIT THE COUNTRY AS A WHOLE.

However, don't worry. If these incentives are used unwisely, and the MONEY DISAPPEARS,

ALL IS NOT LOST. CORPORATIONS FORMED ARE PLACED INTO BANKRUPTCY,

MEANING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE FOOTING THE BILL FOR POOR MONEY

MANAGEMENT.  WHAT ABOUT THE WEALTHY INDIVIDUALS WHO RECEIVED THE

TAX BREAK BENEFITS, AND LOST THE MONEY? THEY WILL JUST DECLARE THESE

LOSSES ON THEIR INDIVIDUAL TAX RETURNS, AND BASICALLY GET IT ALL BACK.

THE REPUBLICANS- WHO ARE THEY FIGHTING FOR AGAIN?